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3/9/2005 6:41:50 AM
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suzann
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Under the delusion that I could do this, I signed up for a top down set in sleeve sweater class.From http://www.needlecraftuniversity.com/index2vF2.htm?parm=classlistk.htm
Now it clearly says,Intermediate to Advanced students. I know that I am neither. But I figured, hey it is only moss stitch and cables. I know how to do both. And I could learn short rows. It isn`t the instructions, they are quite comprehensive. It is me. My brain seems to be on dead stop. My moss stitch panels turned into ribbing.My short rows turned into lace. Ok I redid the moss stitch shoulder panels. And got out Knitting for Dummies and sorted out the short rows. You would think I would be in gravy by now. Noooooooooooooo way. The stupid part now kicks in. I am working the front shoulder part, from a chart. I copied the chart and enlarged it so I could see it more clearly. I have frogged the shoulder shaping 5 times. My poor HW is getting a bit frayed as are my nerves. I seem to have forgotten everything I learned about short rows...frog..moss stitch gone to ribbing frog....I am so angry at myself. I suppose I could turn the moss into ribbing. One of my fellow students, a guy is doing this. Or even do it in plain stockingette stitch. But I hate to give up. *Runs screaming around the house pulling hair*
I guess I could just print out each week and save it until I grow somemore brain cells :(
Just had to rant to an understanding group 
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3/9/2005 9:16:21 AM
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benne
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Hi Suzann,
I hate it when my brain locks up and I get a mental block about a pattern. Once I read, reread, re-reread, knitted and frogged at least 4 times on what was supposed to be a simple pattern. I finally gave up and emailed the designer. After I sent the email, suddenly something clicked in my feeble brain, and all at once it was clear. I was very embarrassed because it really WAS a very simple pattern, I was overthinking it. I`m sorry you are in the throes of frogging madness. You`re not stupid, you`re a real knitter. I think we all do this from time to time. Good luck, hang in there and don`t give up. :-}
Benne
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3/9/2005 9:24:50 AM
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Alice Trueman
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Make a large pot of tea, sit in a comfortable chair, and take the instructions slowly.
Moss Stitch: British version -(1) K P K P K P . . .
Next row -(2) K P K P K P . . .
For the second row, you need to read the knitting and knit or purl the opposite to what you see before you. [Ribbing, you knit the same]. With this version, you can see right away if you are coming out ribbing or moss stitch.
American Version: (1) K P K P K P . . .
(2) K P K P K P . . .
(3) P K P K P K . . .
(4) P K P K P K . . .
The important thing is, as above, to read your knitting, and note down completed row
If you are doing the short rows in moss stitch, you are probably better NOT to knit up the wraps, the little bar will show less than than the knit up. I suspect this is how you are getting lace.
You are not joined at the hip to the chart - think about what the chart is telling you to do across the whole row, write it in your own words on a piece of scrap paper, read your stitches to see how you can make the moss stitch work, and knit across. Drink another cup of tea.
You can do this!
Write again if it is still confusing.
Alice
Salt Spring Island
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3/9/2005 9:43:59 AM
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With all that tea! Think of the all the interuptions!
On weekend mornings, I sit and drink my coffee and knit or plan at long as possible, run to the can, then start pancakes for the kids. It is always such a conflict- hot beverage consumption, comfortable chair, and knitting versus active kidneys.
I can knit when I am tired, I know to check what I am doing more often, but planning a project, learning a technique, figuring out a pattern, or casting on a project is reserved for when I am fresh. I have made many pairs of socks, but learned of all the errors and miscalculations because I wanted it started enough to take with me as a project to work on while waiting.
Carol in VA
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3/9/2005 12:20:14 PM
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suzann
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ahh you ladies are the best :)
I washed my face, pinned back my hair and put on the kettle.
One of the problems I had was the mess. There are two balls of yarn attached to the work, and a bunch of yarn holding live stitches. They all twist around each other and are really annoying. I realize that this is to save attaching yarn and having ends to weave in. I made the decision to cut off the other ball of yarn, and to move the live stitches to stitch holders. As I spipped my tea I made another decision. I frogged all of the front so far. Only 12 rows on each side. Got myself a nice fresh ball of yarn. The old one was getting a bit ratty. Poor HW it never did anything to deserve this :)
As I sat and looked at the charts, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I had the yarn at the wrong end of the shoulder saddle and that is why the chart was all wonky to me. I must have done that when I picked up the stitches along the saddle piece, for the back shoulder/arm shaping. In order to get the yarn where the chart starts, I had to knit an extra row. DOH But the second side didn`t need the extra row as that yarn was in the correct starting place.
I then marked the chart with a red pen for the knits on the wrong side of the row. And I am going to use Cate`s stitch marker for the short row. I have a habit of sailing right over them, and forgetting to pick up the wrap. That is how I got holes, Alice. I printed out your moss stitch directions.
I have also found my post it pad and I will use it on each row. I used that when I did the flowerbasket shawl. I have the attention span of a mite.
I am teaching a tatting class tonight, so I have everything ready to start knitting tomorrow. Hopefully I can finish the shoulder shaping before Sat, when the next lesson comes up.I am longing for the cables to start, at least I know how to do that :)
Thanks ladies, Markers are your friend, stitch markers are your friend, post it notes are your friend, and you guys are the greatest friends. paddling home from the frog pond :)
Suzann
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3/9/2005 4:53:04 PM
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benne
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Hey Lucy,
Click. You go girl.
Ethel
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3/9/2005 6:26:18 PM
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bets
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I realize I was no help during the crisis, but I am happy you sorted it out.
B
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