http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Elann Community Chat Center - Previous Website Chat - Help with moths - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:44:32 GMT Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:44:32 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Also, I`ve always heard that natural fibers need to breath. Is that not the case with stuff stored in Space Bags?
Sandra]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:44:32 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376
Where do they come from, those clothes moths?

Emily

More info here:
http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/insect/05599.html

Freezing insect-infested wool or fabrics can kill clothes moths. Freezer temperatures less than 0 degrees F will almost always be lethal to insects following a 72-hour exposure. To increase the effectiveness of freezer treatments, insects should be first acclimated to room temperatures. Abrupt change from warm to freezing temperatures is important to control insects in woolens. Insects that are slowly cooled develop resistance to freezing. During freeze treatment, wool or woolen fabrics can be kept in a plastic freezer bag but attempt to remove as much air as possible before freezing.



Temperatures that are not lethal nevertheless can greatly slow insect development. Cold storage treatment used to be widely practiced for protection of furs and other valuable clothing articles that are susceptible to carpet beetles and clothes moths. Wool or fabrics can be similarly protected by storing them in cool locations within the home or even temporarily storing them in unheated outbuildings or garages.]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:34:13 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Benne]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:57:53 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:22:23 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:20:57 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:20:13 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 http://www.johnnyseeds.com/catalog/resultdetails.html?source=&edit_id=2038&name=Diatect%20V%99%20(OG)&cat_id=323&topcatid=292&subcatid=315&subcatid2=323&subcatid3=0&search_keywords=earth&ct=comm&pagename=resultdetails.html

Johnny`s also has it.]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:51:18 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376
As far as the DE - Diataemous Earth. Try a Local Nursery or landscape supply company. If you can`t find it there try a local Feed & Seed. You can sometimes find it as a feed supplement cheaper than as a pesticide - it rids animals of internal parasites. I have also seen it mixed with pyrethrin powder as an ant killer at my local feed and seed. If all else fails go to Peaceful Valley Farm Supply on the web (http://www.groworganic.com/a/a1.html). I know they have it. Oh and by the way, it won`t hurt you at all - they sometimes mix it with food grain to kill creepy crawlies.

If you have flea problem you can also sprinkle it on pets and on carpets to kill fleas, flea larvae, and flea eggs.]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:46:43 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:13:00 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 http://www.spacebag.com/index.htm

The key is to not over fill them. I did find some of them failed. I used a bunch for a cross country move.

Carol]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2005 05:48:18 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Wed, 05 Jan 2005 04:44:02 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376
Space Bags. Not cheap, but cheaper than throwing away precious knitted things and yarn that you didn`t even get a chance to knit. Space bags, you guys. Space Bags.

This desert is teeming with things no spray will kill... black widows and scorpions and sun spiders (and that`s not to rule out a zillion types of moths)... not that I would spray too many chems on my fibers, but you learn to embrace a few so you won`t have to sleep wth cotton balls in your ears to keep the critters out. Space Bags are impenetrable.

If Space Bags weren`t so hard to breathe in, I would move our entire house into one for the summer. Space Bags, I tell ya.

Space Bags.]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2005 02:46:50 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376
I have just learned here about organic solutions I had never heard about, but for what it`s worth, my favorite all-purpose bug spray is SLA, which is made with pyrethrins (which are some plants` bug killers) and smells like cedar. It is also the only thing I know that kills spiders when they crawl over previously sprayed surfaces.
Good luck,
Marta]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:17:36 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Some say soaking the yarn/sweater/whatever in water for 48 hours will kill the eggs.
Some say two weeks in a closed container with motheballs will kill the eggs.
Theresa has been too overwhelmed to do any of these things, although she is considering enterring a Show-lin temple, having learned how to kill the flying moths by grabbing them in one enraged fist....
Theresa]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:06:53 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Gerlinde]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:15:00 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376
I recommend the freezing because it stops the activity while you are dealing with the the other aspects. Now, how much ice cream will you need to eat to make room?

Anyone know how well the "Space-Bags" work for moth protection? Space bags and DE for the summer? I don`t want to use moth-balls.

Carol]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:13:36 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376
Theresa - what do you recommmend?]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:31:17 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376
Eileen.]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:52:55 GMT http://www.elann.com/Commerce.Web/forums/messages.aspx?TopicID=136376 Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:14:55 GMT